Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Development Camp Wrapup,

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Development Camp Wrapup,
- bmeltzer

Bill the sens bloggers says the Sens have kicked the tires "again" on Giroux. Do you have any insight to this at all?

Bill the sens bloggers says the Sens have kicked the tires "again" on Giroux. Do you have any insight to this at all?
- hello it's me 2050

Complete the makeover. Trade Giroux

...many have said...many say...

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Bill the sens bloggers says the Sens have kicked the tires "again" on Giroux. Do you have any insight to this at all?
- hello it's me 2050

There's nothing to it. At least not at present.

Again, all indications are that Giroux wants to finish his career here and the Flyers want that, too. He wasn't asked to waive his NMC for the Expansion Draft. There is no plan to replace him as captain. They'll figure out a (lower) cap hit and term based on how this season goes.

Could things change? Sure. Likely? No.

There's nothing to it. At least not at present.

Again, all indications are that Giroux wants to finish his career here and the Flyers want that, too. He wasn't asked to waive his NMC for the Expansion Draft. There is no plan to replace him as captain. They'll figure out a (lower) cap hit and term based on how this season goes.

Could things change? Sure. Likely? No.
- bmeltzer

I should have clarified. Do you know if they ever had any trade discussion any possible players coming the flyers way. Were they told he isnt available?

When teams find late round gems and even better- undrafted guys who join the team as ATO or PTO- it really puts the franchise a step or two ahead. I think back to the days that Detroit got datsyuk and zetterberg in late rounds. Had they not drafted those 2 players I don't think Detroit would have won as much as they did for so long.
So when we have guys like Myers and zamula walk on to the team it really hurts to miss out on a second over all pick like NoPa.
It makes me wonder how much further along this team would have been had nopa not nopa'd
I hope this franchise continues to find undrafted gems like they have. It makes up for a couple of shoddy first round draft picks by hexy
We were able to flip a 2nd overall bust and an undrafted defenseman for a legit #2 RHD though!

There's nothing to it. At least not at present.

Again, all indications are that Giroux wants to finish his career here and the Flyers want that, too. He wasn't asked to waive his NMC for the Expansion Draft. There is no plan to replace him as captain. They'll figure out a (lower) cap hit and term based on how this season goes.

Could things change? Sure. Likely? No.
- bmeltzer

It is entirely possible that the Ottawa GM has called the Flyers to discuss the availability of Giroux. Where the blogger goes off the rails is when he writes " many close to Giroux have said he would waive his NMC for the Sens, plus he has a home in the area too!" So you mean to tell me that Kevin Francis knows this, gives a vague source and nobody else, no source who is directly following the Flyers has this info? The easy read on this is that the blogger is full of crap and he's writing nonsense.

On another note... Who is everyone most excited to keep an eye on on rookie camp?

There are some sleeper and dark horse kids I hope to see do well.

I like the destroyer. I want to see him do well.
Allison looks like the real deal. It's nice to see him healthy now

It is entirely possible that the Ottawa GM has called the Flyers to discuss the availability of Giroux. Where the blogger goes off the rails is when he writes " many close to Giroux have said he would waive his NMC for the Sens, plus he has a home in the area too!" So you mean to tell me that Kevin Francis knows this, gives a vague source and nobody else, no source who is directly following the Flyers has this info? The easy read on this is that the blogger is full of crap and he's writing nonsense.
- MJL

Maybe he needed some click bait. He knows flyers fans will chime in on that article

It is entirely possible that the Ottawa GM has called the Flyers to discuss the availability of Giroux. Where the blogger goes off the rails is when he writes " many close to Giroux have said he would waive his NMC for the Sens, plus he has a home in the area too!" So you mean to tell me that Kevin Francis knows this, gives a vague source and nobody else, no source who is directly following the Flyers has this info? The easy read on this is that the blogger is full of crap and he's writing nonsense.
- MJL

Of course he is, in your opinion.

You should go tell him your thoughts on the matter.

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Development Camp Wrapup,
- bmeltzer

Allison hurt again Bill? Pulled groin?

When teams find late round gems and even better- undrafted guys who join the team as ATO or PTO- it really puts the franchise a step or two ahead. I think back to the days that Detroit got datsyuk and zetterberg in late rounds. Had they not drafted those 2 players I don't think Detroit would have won as much as they did for so long.
So when we have guys like Myers and zamula walk on to the team it really hurts to miss out on a second over all pick like NoPa.
It makes me wonder how much further along this team would have been had nopa not nopa'd
I hope this franchise continues to find undrafted gems like they have. It makes up for a couple of shoddy first round draft picks by hexy
We were able to flip a 2nd overall bust and an undrafted defenseman for a legit #2 RHD though!
- Bob Habib

If Patrick had lived up to being the 2nd overall pick as a center, this team would've been immensely better off. I don't place any blame on Hextall for the pick. His drafting record is solid.

Foerster & Allison.....I hope they play their way to the big club by the end of the year...

If Patrick had lived up to being the 2nd overall pick as a center, this team would've been immensely better off. I don't place any blame on Hextall for the pick. His drafting record is solid.
- MJL

solid = average. Wow impressive.

It is entirely possible that the Ottawa GM has called the Flyers to discuss the availability of Giroux. Where the blogger goes off the rails is when he writes " many close to Giroux have said he would waive his NMC for the Sens, plus he has a home in the area too!" So you mean to tell me that Kevin Francis knows this, gives a vague source and nobody else, no source who is directly following the Flyers has this info? The easy read on this is that the blogger is full of crap and he's writing nonsense.
- MJL

That little gem actually made me chuckle.

Foerster & Allison.....I hope they play their way to the big club by the end of the year...
- DrMidnite

I would be surprised if Allison doesn't make the roster coming out of camp.

I would be surprised if Allison doesn't make the roster coming out of camp.
- MJL

same

I don't recall at the time of the draft there being any mention of NoPa being a subpar skater, but there should have been concerns.

That little gem actually made me chuckle.
- Scoob

Exactly! After all these years, I can’t picture him and the family homeless in Philly. So…Giroux has a very nice city-living dwelling in Philadelphia and would love to finish his career in orange and black now that the Flyers are turning the corner to contention.

#notdoneyet

Allison hurt again Bill? Pulled groin?
- hello it's me 2050

He was held out of group sessions on days 2 and 3 and didn't do the 3-on-3. So he's dealing with something .

He was held out of group sessions on days 2 and 3 and didn't do the 3-on-3. So he's dealing with something .
- bmeltzer

Thanks. He just cant shake that injury bug

same
- Scoob

Excellent....we need offensive specialists

He was held out of group sessions on days 2 and 3 and didn't do the 3-on-3. So he's dealing with something .
- bmeltzer

Ugh!! Just Ugh!!

I was curious about "Crime and Penalties" after reading Bill's blog yesterday. The trailer I saw infuriated me. Pro hockey below the AHL level is a joke.